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Here is the mid-term study guide (link soon). |
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| | 0 | 1/24/2010 3:40 PM | I need a better understanding of K from The Trial I didn't get a chance to better understand The Trial because i joined the class late. So it is just kind of my responsibility to find out. But I still need to understand K. This character seems more confusing and complicated than trying to undrestand The Inferno. I am using the second quote from the trial on the mid-term paper and I don't know how to compare K's ignorance to the trial and his punishment and how it relates to Satan's ignorance for God's plan, and how both of them gave into the ways of superiors. So before I decide to use that quote I would like a better understanding of K. |
| | 5 | 1/24/2010 12:36 PM | okay i been thinking If we are to relate multiple quotes with one point and relate it to our lives as well and there are so many options for quotes then is there a main point were suppose to get this whole semester? Like is there one big picture through all of these lessons that we are supose to get? To be able to connect them all seems like he wants us to understand one thing? maybe he wants us to take it as a lesson we create ourselves about life? Oh my goodness this class messes with my brain!! :p |
| | 8 | 1/24/2010 11:20 AM | Self truth "The truth shall make you free."
"It is better to be in chains than to be free."
I can't remember the other quote but what i'm going for here is distinguishing truth vs. Truth. I think I'm going to identify truth as like self truth, but I'm not sure how off that is. Any thoughts? or suggestions? I love suggestions. Suggestions are nice. |
| | 3 | 1/24/2010 3:25 AM | Truth, The Overdone Topic of the Year! “Pilate saith unto him, What is truth?” - St. John 18:38
-The fundamental question being asked: the nature of truth.
-asked by one who was not a Jew and not a chosen person of God, not “of the truth”
-not asking what a particular truth is, but what “truth” actually is, what truth means, a matter of perception
-False argument?
“The mind is its own place, and in itself
Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.” - Milton (I. 254-255)
-Satan argues that the mind is more powerful than reality, able to change reality
-The mind is separate from place and time, and not subject to circumstance
-Because it is Satan arguing, it is assumed that this argument is flawed or false
-Truth is a matter of perception
“And if he were forced to deliver his opinion again, touching the shadows aforesaid, and to enter the lists against those who had always been prisoners, while his slight continued dim and his eyes unsteady, - and if this process of initiation lasted a considerable time, - would he not be made a laughingstock, and would it not be said of him, that he had gone up only to come back again with his eyesight destroyed, and that is was not worth while even to attempt the ascent?” - Plato's Allegory of the Cave
-Truth experienced by one is less valid than truth experienced by whole?
-Truth is a matter of perception
-Is it worth is to be right if no one believes you?
-Similar issue faced by Jesus
-He faced truth, could only a supernatural being do so?
So these are basically just notes I typed out in a few minutes while pondering this. The main connection seems to be that Truth is a matter of perception, except that the people who think that are wrong in some way (Satan = evil, Pontius Pilate = not a chosen person of God, The cave people = stupid). Thoughts?
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| | 3 | 1/21/2010 11:29 PM | 3 quotes Okay if im not mistaken chisnell said to pick 2 quotes and im reading that lots of people are picking 3. WHY?! is is like extra credit or are you going above and beyond or did i miss a huge part in the directions? |
| | 3 | 1/20/2010 7:38 PM | Mid-Term Thoughts The three quotes I want to use:
" It's safer to be in chains than to be free."
"But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
"The truth shall make you free."
The main idea I have so far is with quote number one and qote number two.
(I have to find a way to weave in number three still.)
With Eve having the choice of disobeying God, which she did, it put her in chains. Here I will bring in the quote, "It's safer to be in chains than to be free." I think that in Eve's case it would have been better to be in chains after because chains of choice = discipline when you look at it symbollically.
This is what I have so far. Feel free to debate. =-) |
| | 4 | 1/17/2010 7:35 PM | Talk of Desires Hello,
My quotes are 4, 7, and 12. I seem them connected as desires for allowance, perception. I see a basis, but i need a but of a jump, i want to know does anyone see what i see, because i can define a clear arguement, but at times, i cannot see how they are connected together, but i know why i chose them, maybe it's because of how i'm feeling, maybe not.
Sleeping D. Thinker
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| | 8 | 1/17/2010 11:34 AM | #2 and #10 "It's often safer to be in chains than to be free."
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heav'n of Hell, and a Hell of heav'n."
I'm going to ry to argue that these both have to do with creating a narrow mindset for oneself. If one is choosing to be in chains over freedom, then they feel safe under soemone else's control, thus they submit to their authority. If K would have decided to go with the system and ignore it, then he might have been in better shape because his fight against the court is what killed him. Same with Satan. If he chooses to put himself in "chains" and stay down in Hell, then he can try to make a safe mindset for himself, choosing to look at Hell as a good place in order to cope with the fact that he's submiting to God's authority by staying down there.
Anything you could add on or argue would be great! |
| | 3 | 1/17/2010 1:14 AM | Help! Ok im confused horribly about how to connect things n the essay. Would you be saving a paragraph per quote? or would you be trying to blend them together. I need tips on how to make this essay flow together well. If anyone has any suggestions on anything essay related, I thought i would just make this so people can brainstorm ideas of the formatting. |
| | 1 | 1/16/2010 7:27 PM | #1, #9, and #13 "Logic may indeed be unshakable, but it cannot withstand a man who is determined to live. Where was the judge he had never seen? Where was the High Court he had never reached?" (Kafka)
"Pilate saith unto him, What is truth?" (Book of John)
"I could never have believed that death had undone so many" (Dante's Inferno)
I am going for the theme the truth about death.
So far I have worked out that K, Dante, and Pilate are naive about the truth, and of death....sorta. It needs worked on.
Any thoughts that you came up with on these? Feel free to use any for yourself. |
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